beware of www.centralship.com I lost 8250 Euro!!!!

[swemac]

If you´re going to buy a car and the seller suggest to use http://www.centralship.com -- Beware!!!
The so called transport company Centralship was going to deliver a car to me in Sweden, the car i bought from a guy in Germany. They wanted me to pay 2000 Eur by Western Union but i refused to, i´d rather do the wiring by bank transfer but then i would have to pay 50 % of the car value 8250 eur. I was given a name, bank adress, bank account nr, sort code, IBAN number and SWIFT/BIC number in the UK in order to make the transaction, i thought it was ok because an account maybe could be traced to an identity if anything would go wrong.
Guess what, I never got the car. Then i found this site.
Is there anybody who knows if it´s possible to find this person that i wired money to, after all, he has a real bank account in the Uk, is it possible to fraud him back with his bank account number and name on any webshop´s on the internat or MUST i have his visa card number too?

Please help, anyone!!
Regards Mac

[truth_moment]

No. That is not possible. All you can do now is to stop the transfer now. Call you bank and STOP the transfer or call the police and your bank to close his fake bank account from UK and give your money back!!!!
But do this quick because he can pick up 1000pounds at the first time, then he can pick up 300pounds daily from every ATM with the card from the bank account!!!!!
Maybe he din't pick up all the money from the fake account, so you can recover some .
BUT DO THIS QUICK

[swemac]

I wired the money 14th of februari in the morning and later the same day i called my bank just check if it was possible to stop the transaction in case i wanted to, but they said no, the money was already on it´s way to UK.
Tha shipping compant told me that they need to wait for the money to arrive before they could start the shipping. The money arrived on the 16th and after that i heard nothing. Now my bank can´t do anything and the whole thing is reported to the police. But is that really true, that my bank can not stop the transfer even the same day i send them? If that´s not true and they lied to me or the person in my bank was incompetent, then maybe THEY must refund me the money.

[swemac]

I forgott to say that the seller was supposed to be a german guy called Axel Kaiser (axelkaiser2000@yahoo.com) and he even send me a copy of his id-card and a copy of the registration papers of the car and it all seemed ok, i´m sure that the real Axel Kaiser in Germany is innocent and has nothing to do with this but anyway.

This is where i send the money

Barclays Bank Plc , 737 Barking Road, Plaistow, London E139PL

Account name : MR PETER MUDRIK BUSSINESS ACCOUNT

Account number : 00122793

Sort code : 20-67-90

Branch : THE NEWHAM GROUP 2

IBAN : GB10BARC 2067 9000 1227 93

SWIFTBIC-BARCGB22

He was the "manager" of Centralship in UK
Central Ship Headquarters:
Harglenis Building
2 Hornsey Road
N7 7BP London UK
Europe

e-mail adresses to Centralship

(centralship@centralship.com)
(customerdepartement@centralship.com)
(stepship@stepship.com) to track your package

[swemac]

I have noticed that some of you are talking about "trace the email adress" or "log his IP" I wonder if anyone can tell me where it´s possible to search where someones email come from, or do i need some sort of program to do this?

[TC]

Oh man..... did you talk to anyone on the phone maybe ?

The minute they ASK you to use WU it's already clearer than daylight.

I also want to buy a car from someone in Germany, so I'm going to drive there to meet the person and test-drive the car.

If you have 8000 E to spend on a car you might as well spend another 200 E on traveling there and making sure you have a genuine deal.


I'm sorry for your loss man - this is a huge amount of money and the disappointment over the car even makes it worse...

This is so obviously a scam.... The site was created on January 27th 2006

Even google returned nothing on centralship related to shipping....

[truth_moment]

If you have a yahoo ID, you can easy tack his IP, but probably they are not so stupid to use their own IP address! I am sure they used a AOL browser ot a ssh!
Anyway, the guy from your bank was very very incompetent!!!!! You can stop a transaction between 2 bank accounts any time!!!!!! until the money are cleared in the fake account.
Yes, about that ID, that guy I think it's innocent. But now they can do fake ID's and put a pic and a name!!!! YES, a fake ID!!!! and you think that it's a real seller. When you want to buy something on the internet! Be sure that the deal is not so good, because if he is....It usually is too good to be true!!!!
But the police is INCOMPETENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
They don't want to act!!!! They can track the fake IP with dates, hours and see the real IP when was loged on to the fake IP and in this way, the easyest way, to find scammers....BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO!!!!!!

[TC]

Shame the police doesn't want to act, or any of the authorities that exists for fighting online frauds...

Only when it comes to copying music they jump...

[swemac]

This real Axel Kaiser does very much exists and lives is Rudesheim am Rhein in Germany, he runs a bau und möbelschreinerei in Greisheim Germany. He DOES own an blue 2004 Audi S4 with the right reg number that it said in the brief i got sent home, however i´m sure he´s innocent and his ID just got stolen from somebody else, maybe the real Axel Kaiser had tried to sell his car before and then someone else used his id an brief to make a scam. Can somebody please search where axelkaiser2000@hotmail.com come from, IP or something.

[swemac]

truth_moment are you sure that a transaction can be stopped before it reaches the other bank, are the bank proceedures the same in all countries over the world, i mean maybe it could be stopped if it was the US or Germany, but i live in Sweden and maybe we have other ways of proceedures i dont know. But if you´re right bout this i could actually sue my bank???