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Postby MarcB » Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:54 pm

Hello everyone,

I will buy something, from a person in Italy, I am from Germany,
I have to pay 2500? -> about 3000USD

I now want to ask if the escrow company is real and no fraud.

The homepage of them is : http://www.online-deliverys.com

I got an email, with a tracking number, that works,
please look for this, because I dont know what to do.

even the email adress is with @onlinedelivery.com ,
the seller (wich I personally dont know, so I cant say he is onnest)
said (and so its written even in the email of onlinedeliverys) that the package, is already in the warehouse in rome, italy.

thank you,

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www.online-deliverys.com

Postby JaxHot » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:43 pm

http://www.online-deliverys.com is a fraud escrow site.
Please supply us with the e-mail address the scammer used to send you there, what the scammer is selling and how payment is expected.
Is this eBay related?
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Postby peg » Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:10 pm

First... by the very nature that you are at this site questioning the decision... You should NOT go through with the transaction. Trust your instincts.

Next, I find it very odd that I cannot (at the moment) get any info from a WHOIS on http://online-deliverys.com which maybe indicates that they are VERY new.

As I looked at their site, I see the layout and it doesn't look familiar of other layouts I have seen, but what struck me as odd is the ONLY methods of payments are those that can be frauded easily.

http://www.online-deliverys.com/index.php-show=support&act=payment.htm wrote:PAYMENT OPTIONS
You can make the payment by Bank Wire Transfer or with cash trough Western Union or Money Gram

Western Union should ONLY (is that clear enough) be used when YOU KNOW THE OTHER PARTY PERSONALLY .

Bank transfers have become unsafe as well since you don't need a whole lot of valid id (in many countries) to get a back account. So they forge credentials... and leave with your money.

Also note the misspelling of the word THROUGH on the quote (taken directly from their site).

Next the LACK of any hits on google for "online-deliverys and escrow" is NOT a good thing. You Especially for a company claiming to have been around since 2000 (in their copyright).

The lack of any REAL contact information (like a phone number that works) gives me concern. Also ALL the email contacts for Customer Service, Registration, Transactions, and Billing are listed to go to Contact@OnlineDeliverys.com.

I also look at the terms and found several other fraud sites using the SAME terms as well. Many of them were shut down... but I did find one that was not http://www.forte-db.com which is definitely a fraud (layout added to http://escrow-fraud.pgardner.net/images/sites/Layout10/ )

All this adds up to being a fraud in my book. I would avoid them or suggest to use a legit site like http://escrow.com and offer to pay ALL the fees. I bet you will find that they have some reason WHY they don't want to use Escrow.com. (Ultimately it's because they can't pull their scam on escrow.com)
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Postby MarcB » Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:40 pm

hello,
first: thank you really, THANK YOU

the seller sent me this phone number:

0040747184095


and i got another, MAYBE fraud, please check thisone out:

http://www.tripledeal.com (i dont think the company is fraud, but a seller sends me emails, with not @tripledeal.com and a lot of faults in writing

(sorry for my bad english)[/url]
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Postby peg » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:29 pm

I don't think that http://tripledeal.com is a fraud. As you suggest, maybe your seller is, however. It is possible to fake an email so that it LOOKS like it is coming from a legit site. If you check closely though, they are not.

Needless to say... Always be careful and cautious. Also, if you have another Seller on the "Hook", please provide his information including email address, mailing address, how you made contact with them (ebay, yahoo, classifieds, etc...) and ANY personal information that you have about them. feel free to post their emails here too. (Include the header stuff as well if you can).

All this information will help to stop them or atleast slow them down. The quicker the scammers get found and posted the quicker they hit the searchengines....
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Postby scambuster11 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:16 pm

0040 is romania !

this type of fraud is run for 99.9% by romanians !

do not send any money or goods !
please give us the names,addresses and bank accounts these scammers use !
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Postby MarcB » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:54 pm

the seller gave me a opportunity:

i can send the money to:

my wifes name,
and the company adress of the "escrow company"

so, when they see that i have got the money, they send the package, and then I have to change the name of my wifes name to the one of them,

that sounds very riskless..

is that possible or is that a BIG hint of fraud?
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Postby peg » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:05 pm

DO NOT SEND THEM ANYTHING IN ANYONES NAME...

Once they have the informaiton of the transaction (for western union), it is NOTHING for them to divert and change the transaction.......

Have you read nothing in this forum???? It's a SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing you should do is turn and walk a way.... They will do ANYTHING to entice you to continue..... They will bow to your every terms ACCEPT if it involves using a Legitimate service like ESCROW.COM

Only you can make the decision... but I have seen it happen many times before. If you continue, you will be out your money. If you don't continue, the only thing you are out is the possibility of a good deal, but you still have your money. And when I say possibility of a good deal, the possibility is probably more likely that you will hit the lottery for 300 Million dollars (or euros or yen or whatever...)
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