www.bactone.com is a fraud or no escrow site????

[superbo]

dear member im christian from italy today i see the site http://www.averahty.co.uk THEY SEEL MOBILES TO FANTASTIC PRICE ...AND THEY TOLD ME THAT I MUST PAY WITH ESCROW WITH THIS SOCIETY:

http://WWW.BACTONE.COM

IM AFRAID THIS IS A FRAUD!!!!HELP ME PLEASE!!!!!SEE THE BOTH SITE AND TOLD ME THIS IS A SCAM!!!!

[peg]

Ok.. This one seems fishy too. First of all the color choice looks like something out of a Commodore 64 or Tandy TRS80 Color Computer.

Any way, this is what I found.

Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: BACTONE.COM
Created on: 25-Apr-05 <-- Created Less than a month ago
Expires on: 25-Apr-06
Last Updated on: 25-Apr-05

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration BACTONE.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inic.
DomainsByProxy.com
15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599
Technical Contact:
Private, Registration BACTONE.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599

Domain servers in listed order:
WSC1.JOMAX.NET
WSC2.JOMAX.NET

First Thing I think of when I look at the WHOIS info is "Are we hiding?" Because they are using DOMAINS BY PROXY, it is much harder to use the WHOIS inf as a means to determining a fraud. That being said, it also makes me IMMEDIATELY suspicious.

Next, of course is the creation date of less than a month ago.

The lack of ANY REAL company info on the site (Real or made up for that fact).

The poorly designed site makes a poor impression on legitamcy as well.

Then of course we have the ever popular Verisign LOGO, which if accurate should take you to verisigns site. (with Verisigns address in the URL). However they hide that info using Javascript (to hide the address bar), but the site is still accessible by finding the RIGHT url. Which isn't hard in this case . If you go to http://www.bactone.com/verisign.html you will see the same thing as if you clicked the Verisign Logo. You will also note that the address is NOT https://seal.verisign.com as the page suggests that it should be. Also with Verisign, that is supposed to give you the security of SECURE online transactions, meaning that you should be able to use SSL or an httpS address. Well if you go to https://www.bactone.com you will find that this site does NOT support SSL.

Again, this is a simple one to say it's a

[superbo]

YOU ARE GREAT

[peg]

Thanks, Glad I could help!

[Cily]

If can be of any help these are the info of some people who wanted to sell me some items through bactone-escrow.
Is there any possibility to cacth these people?

> Please go to http://www.bactone.com
> and start an escrow transaction with you as a buyer
> and our company as a seller .
> Our details are below:
>
> Averahty Co Uk
> 50 Stratton St.,
> London,
> UK, W1J 8LL
> United Kingdom
> sales@averahty.co.uk
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Chloe Devon,
> Sales Manager, mailto:sales@averahty.co.uk
> http://www.averahty.co.uk
> Fax:44-808-208-3557

In their site http://www.averahty.co.uk it's been linked the bacton site for the payment.
If anyone needs any other info i still have all the mail they wrote me.
Bye
Andrea

[peg]

WOW!!! No we are moving into creating a fraudulent store front and refering to a fraudulent Escrow Site!

Indeed I Do not trust http://Averahty.Co.Uk This looks almost as phony as the escrow site Bactone.com.

Additionally, they put stuff in there to MAKE it look legit, as if the site has been VERIFIED. Like the link on the "Payment Page" that claims that the "The merchant's certificate has been validated" and to click on a link to prove it. Well the link is just a JAVA SCRIPT that pops up an alert message

I have duplicated it at http://escrow-fraud.pgardner.net/alert.htm

Then of course the WHOIS info

Averahty.Co.Uk = [ 84.22.161.11 ]

Domain Name:
averahty.co.uk
Registrant:
Michelle Lynn Benton
Registrant's Address:
4709 Pershing Ave
Fort Worth
Tx
7610 7
US
Registrant's Agent:
Iomart Ltd [Tag = INTERNETTERS]
URL: http://www.iomart.com
Relevant Dates:
Registered on: 17-Apr-2005 <--Just over a month ago
Renewal Date: 17-Apr-2007 <-- WOW registered for 2 years!
Registration Status:
Registration request being processed
Name servers listed in order:
ns4.easyspace.com 84.22.161.11
ns5.easyspace.com 62.128.193.201
WHOIS database last updated at 14: 15: 01 25-May-2005

So they have only been in business for a month, and already they have a contract with DELL and Gateway? (I thought that Dell and Gateway didn't really do retail merchant sales.. Oh well)

Something just smells rotten about this site and given the association with BACTONE.COM, I would avoid BOTH!

[Cily]

There's more:


"Dear Chloe,
I've registered to the https://www.escrow.com/index.asp site. I think that it should be the same thing, cause it's always escrow.
Is it ok with it?"


"Hello Andrea,

We don't accept this company.

--
Best regards,
Chloe Devon,
Sales Manager, mailto:sales@averahty.co.uk
http://www.averahty.co.uk
Fax:44-808-208-3557"


They really wanted me to use Bacton