how about this 1?http://www.sernam-europe.com/index.htm

[payne72]

is this site fake too?
http://www.sernam-europe.com/index.htm
thx

[peg]

As best as I can tell, I would NOT trust this site. I tried a google of sernam-europe http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=se ... gle+Search and the only hits I get either do not refer to this site, refer to other potentially fraudulent sites (with a similar name) or is the default google response (adding a .com to the end of the name) So the presence in a prominant search engine is not there. (Any site that has been on the web long enough would likely have a presence in a search engine. )

Then there is the WHOIS info

sernam-europe.com = [ 66.226.64.17 ]

Domain name: sernam-europe.com
Registrant:

michael hoeltzel (KRBE4) jlucasin@aol.com

4047 nw 89 way
cooper city FL 33024
United States
Phone: (1)954369621 x
Administrative Contact:
michael hoeltzel (8ZXCS) jlucasin@aol.com

4047 nw 89 way
cooper city FL 33024
United States
Phone: (1)954369621 x
Technical Contact:
michael hoeltzel (KRBE4) jlucasin@aol.com

4047 nw 89 way
cooper city FL 33024
United States
Phone: (1)954369621 x
Billing Contact:
michael hoeltzel (LKZC2) jlucasin@aol.com

4047 nw 89 way
cooper city FL 33024
United States
Phone: (1)954369621 x
Record last updated on 2005-01-09 00: 00: 00
Record created on 2005-01-09 00: 00: 00 <----Just a little over a month ago
Record expires on 2006-01-09 00: 00: 00
Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.abac.com 216.55.128.4
ns2.abac.com
Registration Service Provider: AplusNet(APRO)
apro-n4e-racc@abac.com

http://www.aplus.net
Registrar: NAMES4EVER http://www.names4ever.com

The creation date is a little over a month ago and the phone number is incomplete. This is not conclussive, but it just adds to the suspicion.

If you go to the main page, in the "Short Historical Brief" I noticed that this company claims to be "transporting 150000 packages per month" AND to have "over 1200 employees."; for a company of THIS magnitude, it's amazing that I have never heard of them (and apparently if you are reading this, you probably haven't either) before now. And to have been around since 1996 and not be able to get info abou them....? I would truly have to doubt the legitamcy of this company/site.

Do yourself a favor and avoid sernam-europe.com