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Do you think we can win the law suit against the XO Communications

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Postby escowscamvictim » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:03 pm

Hello All,

I am an escow fraud victim myself, and I am thinking of potential legal action against the ISP, XO Communications. All escow fraud victims of the following sites please contact me at escowscamvictim@yahoo.com so that I can help you get remedy as well.

next-market.net
chesteram.com
3rdpart.net
3rdpart.com
lectad.com
compacttra.com
CELSTAD.COM
Mediatecha.com
Mellont.com
Quintecha.net
bancelo.com
expert-tra.com
Gladursol.com
tud-group.com
my-consign.com
vilemont.com
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Postby peg » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:29 pm

What would be your basis of a law suit? Not that I am discoraging it, however, I can't help to wonder how you can hold the ISP responsible for conducting what, they feel, is a legit transaction. In fact, I would guess that, more likely than not, they too lose money in the process (as most are probably paid for with stolen credit cards and ultimately, the merchant would bear that cost.)
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Postby suziecue » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:40 pm

The only possible chance you would have when suing XO is proving that (1) the site(s) in question had an abuse complaint filed against them, and (2) you (or the other parties in the suit) were defrauded after the date of the complaint(s). In other words -- if XO's abuse department was negligent or delinquent and didn't take a criminal site offline, that's the only hope you have of even starting a lawsuit.

They host thousands of sites and do not thoroughly review each one for legality before providing services.

XO's Terms and Conditions for web hosting specifically absolve them of liability. (Apologies for the annoying CAPS LOCK, but it's a copy/paste ;) )
LIMITATION OF LIABILITY. 1. WITH RESPECT TO CLAIMS OR SUITS BY CUSTOMER, OR ANY OTHERS, FOR DAMAGES RELATING TO OR ARISING OUT OF ACTS OR OMISSIONS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT AND/OR SERVICES PROVIDED HEREUNDER, XO LIABILITY FOR SERVICE INTERRUPTIONS OR PROBLEMS, IF ANY, SHALL BE LIMITED TO CREDIT ALLOWANCES AS EXPRESSLY SET FORTH IN THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, IN ANY PRODUCT TERMS AND CONDITIONS, OR IN ANY APPLICABLE TARIFFS. 2. XO SHALL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY LOSSES OR DAMAGES RESULTING FROM: (A) THE DELIVERY, INSTALLATION, MAINTENANCE, OPERATION, USE OR MISUSE OF AN ACCOUNT, EQUIPMENT, OR SERVICE; (B) ANY ACT OR OMISSION OF CUSTOMER, OR ITS END-USERS OR AGENTS, OR ANY OTHER ENTITY FURNISHING EQUIPMENT, PRODUCTS OR SERVICES TO CUSTOMER; (C) ANY PERSONAL OR PROPERTY DAMAGES DUE TO THE LOSS OF STORED, TRANSMITTED OR RECORDED DATA RESULTING FROM THE SERVICE OR THE EQUIPMENT, EVEN IF XO HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES; OR (D) ANY FAILURE TO PERFORM UNDER THIS AGREEMENT CAUSED BY ANY UNFORESEEN CONTINGENCY BEYOND THE REASONABLE CONTROL OF XO INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION INTERNET OUTAGES, COMMUNICATIONS OUTAGES, FIRE, FLOOD, WAR OR ACT OF GOD, OR OTHER SIMILAR EVENTS. THE ONLY EXCEPTION SHALL BE TO THE EXTENT PROPERTY DAMAGE TO CUSTOMER'S PREMISES IS CAUSED DUE TO XO'S SOLE GROSS NEGLIGENCE OR WILLFUL MISCONDUCT, PROVIDED, HOWEVER, IN NO EVENT SHALL XO 'S LIABILITY FOR DIRECT DAMAGES BE GREATER THAN THE SUM TOTAL OF PAYMENTS MADE BY CUSTOMER TO XO DURING THE THREE MONTHS IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THE EVENT FOR WHICH DAMAGES ARE CLAIMED, BUT IN NO EVENT TO EXCEED $10,000. 3. IN NO EVENT SHALL XO BE LIABLE FOR ANY INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, EXEMPLARY, PUNITIVE OR OTHER CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, WHETHER OR NOT FORESEEABLE, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR THE LOSS OF DATA, GOODWILL OR PROFITS, SAVINGS OR REVENUE, OR HARM TO BUSINESS, WHETHER UNDER CONTRACT, TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE), STRICT LIABILITY OR ANY CAUSE WHATSOEVER.
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Oh but yes

Postby JaxHot » Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:34 pm

XO was notified prior to his shipping the item.
Hence the "uproar".
Its not an isolated situation either.

Its been happening for years.
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Postby suziecue » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:49 am

Then heck yeah, sue their pants off. I'd love to see their sloppy attitude finally bite them in the ass :twisted:
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I agree

Postby santahw050 » Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:05 am

Oh hell yes, I totally agree with you guys. I think we can win the case against XO. I tell my lawyer friend about XO's abuse, and he even said XO is probably negligent. But we need info. about how XO neglect complaints and how victims are hurt because of this and things like that. I think XO will try to settle without a doubt if many victims come forward and tell their side of the story.

Anyone who is willing to help in the lawsuit against XO is doing the community a big favor. One reason why there are so many escow fraud site and most of them are on XO servers is because their failure to act.

I have a gut feeling that it is going to be a major case that will define internet law. It will be in the history book and will be remember for years to come
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let's do it

Postby escowscamvictim » Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:17 am

I spoke with a lawyer, and he will open a casefile in May in related to the lawsuit against XO. Thanks for everyone's support, and I think I need as much help as I can get. Please give me as much info. regarding XO's failure to response to complaints and in turn resulted in additional victims. I think this non-sense is ongoing for a few years since the scammers start using XO. Also please anyone who have been defrauded by an escow site using XO as server please step forward. Don't worry about legal fee, it will be on contingency fee, and you don't have to pay for anything. But if you don't step forward I can't help you.
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http://chesteram.com/

Postby JaxHot » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:27 pm

http://chesteram.com/
canonical name chesteram.com.
aliases
addresses 207.155.248.12
207.155.248.47
207.155.248.122
207.155.252.4


Domain Name: CHESTERAM.COM
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com
Name Server: NS2.CNCHOST.COM
Name Server: NS1.CNCHOST.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 03-mar-2006
Creation Date: 03-mar-2006
Expiration Date: 03-mar-2007
Domain Name.......... chesteram.com
Creation Date........ 2006-03-03
Registration Date.... 2006-03-03
Expiry Date.......... 2007-03-03
Organisation Name.... Chesteram CO
Organisation Address. Barcelona Urb.camp de L'arpa
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Barcelona
Organisation Address. 08399
Organisation Address. UK
Organisation Address. SPAIN

Admin Name........... John Sauls
Admin Address........ Barcelona Urb.camp de L'arpa
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Barcelona
Admin Address........ 08399
Admin Address........ UK
Admin Address........ SPAIN
Admin Email.......... ausecspr@aol.com
Admin Phone.......... + 34 91 353 2222
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ XO Comm
Tech Address......... 4800 Concentric Boulevard
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Saginaw
Tech Address......... 48604
Tech Address......... MI
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... hostmaster@cnchost.com
Tech Phone........... +1.888-575-6398
Tech Fax............. +1.866-885-2912
Name Server.......... ns1.cnchost.com
Name Server.......... ns2.cnchost.com



Network Whois record
Queried whois.arin.net with "207.155.248.12"...

OrgName: XO Communications
OrgID: XOXO
Address: Corporate Headquarters
Address: 11111 Sunset Hills Road
City: Reston
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20190-5339
Country: US

ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.eng.xo.com:4321/

NetRange: 207.155.128.0 - 207.155.255.255
CIDR: 207.155.128.0/17
NetName: XOXO-BLK-10
NetHandle: NET-207-155-128-0-1
Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NAMESERVER1.CONCENTRIC.NET
NameServer: NAMESERVER2.CONCENTRIC.NET
NameServer: NAMESERVER3.CONCENTRIC.NET
NameServer: NAMESERVER.CONCENTRIC.NET
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
Comment: Please report spam and viruses to abuse@xo.net.
Comment: For better service, direct customers of XO may use
Comment: the web form at http://www.xo.com/contact/care/
Comment: for reverse DNS requests and other customer-specific
Comment: technical issues. Thank you for your cooperation.
Comment:
RegDate:
Updated: 2005-12-05

OrgAbuseHandle: XCNV-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: XO Communications, Network Violations
OrgAbusePhone: +1-866-285-6208
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@xo.com

OrgTechHandle: XCIA-ARIN
OrgTechName: XO Communications, IP Administrator
OrgTechPhone: +1-703-547-2000
OrgTechEmail: ipadmin@eng.xo.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-04-22 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

DNS records
name class type data time to live
chesteram.com IN A 207.155.248.122 900s (00:15:00)
chesteram.com IN A 207.155.248.47 900s (00:15:00)
chesteram.com IN A 207.155.248.12 900s (00:15:00)
chesteram.com IN A 207.155.248.9 900s (00:15:00)
12.248.155.207.in-addr.arpa IN PTR devonshire.concentric.net 7200s (02:00:00)

Traceroute
Tracing route to chesteram.com [207.155.248.12]...

hop rtt rtt rtt ip address fully qualified domain name
1 0 0 0 63.134.215.1
2 0 0 0 216.197.122.81 dr-ded1-ge-1-6.crystaltech.com
3 0 1 0 216.197.122.65 cr-edge1-ge-5-0.crystaltech.com
4 0 0 0 67.131.24.221 phv-edge-01.inet.qwest.net
5 2 1 1 205.171.129.85 tmp-core-01.inet.qwest.net
6 12 11 11 67.14.10.54 bur-core-02.inet.qwest.net
7 147 215 203 205.171.213.110 lap-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net
8 11 11 12 205.158.79.77 205.158.79.77.ptr.us.xo.net
9 13 12 12 65.106.5.45 p4-0-0.rar1.la-ca.us.xo.net
10 22 22 22 65.106.2.186 p14-0.dcr2.dc-fremont-ca.us.xo.net
11 21 22 22 205.158.60.174 205.158.60.174.ptr.us.xo.net
12 23 24 21 205.158.60.229 dsr1.dc-fremont-ca.us.xo.net
13 Network unreachable

Trace aborted

Service scan
FTP - 21 Error: TimedOut
SMTP - 25 220 devonshire.cnchost.com [ConcentricHost ESMTP Relay 2/2.54] ready

HTTP - 80
POP3 - 110 +OK POP3 Server Ready.

NNTP - 119 Error: TimedOut
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next-market.net

Postby JaxHot » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:30 pm

Address lookup
canonical name next-market.net.
aliases
addresses 207.155.248.31
207.155.252.4
207.155.252.7
207.155.252.31

Domain Name: NEXT-MARKET.NET
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com
Name Server: NS2.CNCHOST.COM
Name Server: NS1.CNCHOST.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 17-mar-2006
Creation Date: 17-mar-2006
Expiration Date: 17-mar-2007
Domain Name.......... next-market.net
Creation Date........ 2006-03-18
Registration Date.... 2006-03-18
Expiry Date.......... 2007-03-18
Organisation Name.... next market
Organisation Address. 2306 Arborview
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Diberville
Organisation Address. 39540
Organisation Address. MS
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Charlene Powell
Admin Address........ 2306 Arborview
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Diberville
Admin Address........ 39540
Admin Address........ MS
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... nexmarket1@yahoo.com
Admin Phone.......... 228-497-9244
Admin Fax............ 228-497-9244

Tech Name............ XO Comm
Tech Address......... 4800 Concentric Boulevard
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Saginaw
Tech Address......... 48604
Tech Address......... MI
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... hostmaster@cnchost.com
Tech Phone........... +1.888-575-6398
Tech Fax............. +1.866-885-2912
Name Server.......... ns1.cnchost.com
Name Server.......... ns2.cnchost.com



Network Whois record
Queried whois.arin.net with "207.155.248.31"...

OrgName: XO Communications
OrgID: XOXO
Address: Corporate Headquarters
Address: 11111 Sunset Hills Road
City: Reston
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20190-5339
Country: US

ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.eng.xo.com:4321/

NetRange: 207.155.128.0 - 207.155.255.255
CIDR: 207.155.128.0/17
NetName: XOXO-BLK-10
NetHandle: NET-207-155-128-0-1
Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NAMESERVER1.CONCENTRIC.NET
NameServer: NAMESERVER2.CONCENTRIC.NET
NameServer: NAMESERVER3.CONCENTRIC.NET
NameServer: NAMESERVER.CONCENTRIC.NET
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
Comment: Please report spam and viruses to abuse@xo.net.
Comment: For better service, direct customers of XO may use
Comment: the web form at http://www.xo.com/contact/care/
Comment: for reverse DNS requests and other customer-specific
Comment: technical issues. Thank you for your cooperation.
Comment:
RegDate:
Updated: 2005-12-05

OrgAbuseHandle: XCNV-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: XO Communications, Network Violations
OrgAbusePhone: +1-866-285-6208
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@xo.com

OrgTechHandle: XCIA-ARIN
OrgTechName: XO Communications, IP Administrator
OrgTechPhone: +1-703-547-2000
OrgTechEmail: ipadmin@eng.xo.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-04-22 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

DNS records
DNS query for 31.0/24.248.155.207.in-addr.arpa returned an error from the server: NameError

name class type data time to live
next-market.net IN A 207.155.252.7 900s (00:15:00)
next-market.net IN A 207.155.252.4 900s (00:15:00)
next-market.net IN A 207.155.252.47 900s (00:15:00)
next-market.net IN A 207.155.248.54 900s (00:15:00)
31.248.155.207.in-addr.arpa IN CNAME 31.0/24.248.155.207.in-addr.arpa 7200s (02:00:00)

Traceroute
Tracing route to next-market.net [207.155.248.31]...

hop rtt rtt rtt ip address fully qualified domain name
1 0 0 0 63.134.215.1
2 0 0 0 216.197.122.81 dr-ded1-ge-1-6.crystaltech.com
3 1 0 0 216.197.122.65 cr-edge1-ge-5-0.crystaltech.com
4 0 0 0 67.131.24.221 phv-edge-01.inet.qwest.net
5 13 1 1 205.171.129.85 tmp-core-01.inet.qwest.net
6 12 12 12 67.14.10.54 bur-core-02.inet.qwest.net
7 13 12 12 205.171.213.110 lap-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net
8 11 11 11 205.158.79.77 205.158.79.77.ptr.us.xo.net
9 12 12 11 65.106.5.45 p4-0-0.rar1.la-ca.us.xo.net
10 21 21 21 65.106.2.186 p14-0.dcr2.dc-fremont-ca.us.xo.net
11 21 21 22 205.158.60.174 205.158.60.174.ptr.us.xo.net
12 21 21 21 205.158.60.229 205.158.60.229.ptr.us.xo.net
13 Network unreachable

Trace aborted

Service scan
FTP - 21 220 ajax FTP server (CH/1.9) ready.
221 You could at least say goodbye.

SMTP - 25 220 ajax.cnchost.com [ConcentricHost ESMTP Relay 2/2.54] ready

HTTP - 80
POP3 - 110 +OK POP3 Server Ready.

NNTP - 119 Error: TimedOut
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vergosol.com

Postby JaxHot » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:32 pm

Address lookup
canonical name vergosol.com.
aliases
addresses 207.155.248.7
207.155.252.7
207.155.252.31
207.155.252.97

Domain Name: VERGOSOL.COM
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com
Name Server: NS2.CNCHOST.COM
Name Server: NS1.CNCHOST.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 08-apr-2006
Creation Date: 08-apr-2006
Expiration Date: 08-apr-2007

Domain Name.......... vergosol.com
Creation Date........ 2006-04-09
Registration Date.... 2006-04-09
Expiry Date.......... 2007-04-09
Organisation Name.... Ver Go Inc
Organisation Address. 516 Tombstone Canyon
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Bisbee
Organisation Address. 85603
Organisation Address. AZ
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Todd Bogatay
Admin Address........ 516 Tombstone Canyon
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Bisbee
Admin Address........ 85603
Admin Address........ AZ
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... cergos11123@aol.com
Admin Phone.......... 5204322398
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ XO Comm
Tech Address......... 4800 Concentric Boulevard
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Saginaw
Tech Address......... 48604
Tech Address......... MI
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... hostmaster@cnchost.com
Tech Phone........... +1.888-575-6398
Tech Fax............. +1.866-885-2912
Name Server.......... ns1.cnchost.com
Name Server.......... ns2.cnchost.com



Network Whois record
Queried whois.arin.net with "207.155.248.7"...

OrgName: XO Communications
OrgID: XOXO
Address: Corporate Headquarters
Address: 11111 Sunset Hills Road
City: Reston
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20190-5339
Country: US

ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.eng.xo.com:4321/

NetRange: 207.155.128.0 - 207.155.255.255
CIDR: 207.155.128.0/17
NetName: XOXO-BLK-10
NetHandle: NET-207-155-128-0-1
Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NAMESERVER1.CONCENTRIC.NET
NameServer: NAMESERVER2.CONCENTRIC.NET
NameServer: NAMESERVER3.CONCENTRIC.NET
NameServer: NAMESERVER.CONCENTRIC.NET
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
Comment: Please report spam and viruses to abuse@xo.net.
Comment: For better service, direct customers of XO may use
Comment: the web form at http://www.xo.com/contact/care/
Comment: for reverse DNS requests and other customer-specific
Comment: technical issues. Thank you for your cooperation.
Comment:
RegDate:
Updated: 2005-12-05

OrgAbuseHandle: XCNV-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: XO Communications, Network Violations
OrgAbusePhone: +1-866-285-6208
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@xo.com

OrgTechHandle: XCIA-ARIN
OrgTechName: XO Communications, IP Administrator
OrgTechPhone: +1-703-547-2000
OrgTechEmail: ipadmin@eng.xo.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-04-22 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

DNS records
name class type data time to live
vergosol.com IN A 207.155.252.31 900s (00:15:00)
vergosol.com IN A 207.155.252.97 900s (00:15:00)
vergosol.com IN A 207.155.252.112 900s (00:15:00)
vergosol.com IN A 207.155.252.9 900s (00:15:00)
7.248.155.207.in-addr.arpa IN PTR renown.concentric.net 7200s (02:00:00)

Traceroute
Tracing route to vergosol.com [207.155.248.7]...

hop rtt rtt rtt ip address fully qualified domain name
1 0 0 0 63.134.215.1
2 0 0 0 216.197.122.81 dr-ded1-ge-1-6.crystaltech.com
3 0 0 0 216.197.122.65 cr-edge1-ge-5-0.crystaltech.com
4 1 0 0 67.131.24.221 phv-edge-01.inet.qwest.net
5 1 1 0 205.171.129.85 tmp-core-01.inet.qwest.net
6 11 11 11 67.14.10.54 bur-core-02.inet.qwest.net
7 12 12 12 205.171.213.110 lap-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net
8 11 12 11 205.158.79.77 205.158.79.77.ptr.us.xo.net
9 11 11 11 65.106.5.45 p4-0-0.rar1.la-ca.us.xo.net
10 20 20 20 65.106.2.158 p15-0.dcr2.dc-fremont-ca.us.xo.net
11 20 20 20 205.158.60.170 205.158.60.170.ptr.us.xo.net
12 20 21 20 205.158.60.229 dsr1.dc-fremont-ca.us.xo.net
13 Network unreachable

Trace aborted

Service scan
FTP - 21 220 renown FTP server (CH/1.9) ready.
221 You could at least say goodbye.

SMTP - 25 220 renown.cnchost.com [ConcentricHost ESMTP Relay 2/2.54] ready

HTTP - 80
POP3 - 110 +OK POP3 Server Ready.

NNTP - 119 Error: TimedOut
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