What about www.ltdshipping.com from auto shipping limited ?

[Aukje]

Hello,

Can someone help me with this one ?
I live in the Netherlands and contacted a car seller who sells a german car that is currently in UK.
He worked in Germany but had to go back to UK. Car can not be sold in UK due to the fact that the steering wheel is on the left side of the car.
total price of the car is 10K. By using Escrow I yesterday paid 1000 euro via wetern union transfer as a guarantee, though they are now comming back to me with another payment of 1000 euro as they say following European Union legislation 20% of the amount needs to be paid.

Enclosed some email conversation:

Dear Customer,

We have a lot of transacitions to resolve and not only your.All papers and all
documents are in export authorities possesion.
Please understand that the car is not stolen or something wrong, we inspect it
before take it.We can't lose time and money.
Complete second payment a soon as possible and contact us with the transfer details
so we can deliver you the car.
After that , if you find something wrong, we will retunr your deposit payment of
20%, but will not be the case, the car is in the best condition.

Thank You
AUTO SHIPPING LIMITED
Aldwych House 71-91
London WC2B 4HN
UNITED KINGDOM
Tel. +44 7031 848013
www.ltdshipping.com
(Online Services)
Hello,

Why wasn't this told me yesterday ?
You had all details already back then.
Please send me the European Union legislation that I will have to pay 20%
instead of 10%, How do they check what the exact agreed amount is between
seller and buyer ? Also send me the car license plate number and the
chassisnumber. I have all reasons now to be suspicous and want to do some
extra checks. This is about a lot of money and we want to have a honest
deal with the seller.

Thanks in advance,
Aukje

>
> Dear Customer,
>
> We want to inform you inform you that the car is right now Bristol
> Port,UK.Also want to inform you that our transport is stand by, because we
> have been informed by export authorities that we must respect some rules
> about International Transport.
> European Union have strict rules against fraud, terrorism and other
> protections program.A shipping must be paid in 20% from the total amount
> so we can deliver you the car without any problem.
> Every country from European Union have special legislation.
> For the moment you have sent 10%.Please send today another payment of 1000
> EUR and contact us with the payment details so we can deliver you the car
> in max 3 days.
> Sorry for all the problems, but we must respect European Union rules, If
> not we can be suspended for International Transport.


The sellers reaction:

hello,

you can't lose any money.my car is in them custody,i trust this company and they
only protect your money and our transaction.

i will receive money from them only after you receive the car,

please understand that everything is under control and nothing is wrong, complete
the second payment with them so they can delivre you the car.

i am doctor and i can't stay online on internet.

thank you

> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:19:37 +0100
> Subject: [Fwd: Re: Cars-Shipping & Escrow Solution. id: UKRM16Z9G313160 (Audi A6
Avant 2.0 TDI DPF)]
> From: aukjeproost@xs4all.nl
> To: petertons10@hotmail.com
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> I have sent this mail to the shipping company this morning.
> I am a serious buyer and do not want to loose any money in any way.
> We already paid 1000 euro yesterday. Also it is suspicious that I do not
> receive the license plate number and chassisnumber of the car together
> with pictures of the car papers.
>
> Can you make sure the other 10% is paid to the shipping company ?
> I will make sure when we buy the car that I will send you the other 9000
> euro.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Aukje

Email addres of the shipping company: autoshipping@europe.com

Thanks in advance for your help !
Aukje

[lightfair]

It's fake; don't send any additional money. The first 1000 EUR are already gone, I fear. Go to the police and file a report with them; make sure to tell them this is organized crime operating from Eastern Europe.

The domain http://ltdshipping.com was created just two days ago; it is the newest "incarnation" of the following domains:

http://shippingltd.auto.officelive.com
database: http://escrow-fraud.com/index.php?page= ... a&id=10015

http://shippinguk.auto.officelive.com
database: http://escrow-fraud.com/index.php?page= ... a&id=10007

http://ukshipping.auto.officelive.com
database: http://escrow-fraud.com/index.php?page= ... ta&id=9998

Everything is quite typical: If the victim already paid once they try to get more money from him. The "seller" is not in or from the UK, he's most likely from Romania. The car doesn't exist.

I'll try to have the site killed later today; make printouts of everything first.