Someone wants to rip me off, I think

[No_Fool]

I saw this posting on autoscout24: http://www.autoscout24.nl/dut/detail.asp?ts=6165807&id=gwwi4ugh33q

In the Netherlands, this car is actually worth about EURO 24000.

I contacted the seller by email, this is his reply:

Hello,
The car is still available. It is in perfect condition, no damage, no accidents. I have all the papers for it and all the taxes paid. I can give you more details about the car. I am no longer in the country, I have been moved in UK because of my job.
I want to sell the car because in Germany the steering wheel is on the left side and in UK is on the other side.
I`m in Uk and the car is with me , if you want we can use a escrow service.
I will go with the car to the escrow. I will let the car there. I will arrange with the escrow all the papers you will need to take the car on your name. You will have to pay to the escrow a warranty in advance, about 30% from the price of the car.the car will be shipped to you and will be to your address in maximum 5 days. When the car will be there you will receive your warranty back. You will have the car for 5 days to decide if you like it or not. You can go and check it where do you want to see if it is OK.If you like it you will close all the papers on your name with the help from the escrow and you will send me the money for it. If you will not keep it you will send it back free with the same escrow. I will pay here the papers and the other taxes. It is not very much.
Yes, the price is correct and it includes all the taxes. I hope I gave you the necesary information.
Please let me know if I can start the transaction.
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon

He uses the following contact information:

Melanite Alphonso [melanitealphonso@yahoo.com]

The car was supposed to be in Belgium, but he claims it's in the UK.
The same steering wheel being on the wrong side crap..... hmmm where have I heard that one before ??

The Phonenumber in the add ( +32-65-457649 ) does not exist.....I wonder how that can be...


Luckily, I didn't trust this way of buying a car. I want to see it before I pay any amount of money to anyone.

I decided to go on with the guy, to see which escrow company he "prefers".

If he answers, of which i am not sure he will, I will post a follow up to this story.

For now,

Take Care!
No_Fool

[georg]

I decided to go on with the guy, to see which escrow company he "prefers".

Im sure, you find this "escrow" in the database or in forum...its a typicall e-mail from a romain gangster group..

[No_Fool]

He contacted me again, giving the following escrow company:

http://www.pagadi-ecommerce.com

They claim to be residing in London, UK on the following address:

E-mail: support@pagadi-ecommerce.com

Mail Address:
23-45 Nevern Square
London, United Kingdom

Fax Number: 442079002683
Phone Number: 442076813216




Here the Whois info:


Whois lookup for pagadi-ecommerce.com.


Whois Server Version 1.3

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for detailed information.

Domain Name: PAGADI-ECOMMERCE.COM
Registrar: NETFIRMS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.netfirms.com
Referral URL: http://www.netfirms.com
Name Server: NS1.NETFIRMS.COM
Name Server: NS2.NETFIRMS.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 06-feb-2006
Creation Date: 06-feb-2006
Expiration Date: 06-feb-2007


>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:53:40 EDT <<<

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Registrars.
Registrant:
Jeffrey Antonucci
Antonucci, Jeffrey
295 French Hill Rd.
wayne, NJ 07470
US

Domain name: pagadi-ecommerce.com

Administrative Contact:
Jeffrey Antonucci caslagura@aol.com
Antonucci, Jeffrey
295 French Hill Rd.
wayne, NJ 07470
US
973-927-2828 Fax:

Technical Contact:
Netfirms Inc. support@netfirms.com
Manager, Domains
5160 Yonge St., 1800
Toronto, ON M2N6L9
CA
4166612100 Fax: 4166610700

Registrar of Record: Netfirms Inc.
Record expires on 2007-02-06.
Record created on 2006-02-06.
Database last updated on 2006-04-26 00:50:02.


Why is the registry nearly 3 months old, when this company claims they exist since 1997



Don't be fooled!!


No_Fool

[peg]

As you have noticed, this site IS a fraud. I have added the screenshot of the site to my gallery http://escrow-fraud.com/images/sites/ and more specifically to http://escrow-fraud.com/images/sites/Layout11

I have also added it to the database of fraud sites. Thanks for your efforts and NOT being a fool.

Good Job.

[JaxHot]

I just sent a payment to him.

[No_Fool]

Jaxhot,

what did you do? What's the use of that?
Is there a way to mess these guys up a bit?


I sent him a nice email yesterday
Told him, I had reported him to the authorities and autoscout.

Keep up the good work!
No_Fool

[PU16]

Sorry I was only a milimeter away to be cheated.
The storry is everytime the same as far as I see it yet, they was in germany bought a car go back and have problems with the steering wheel.
This is definetly a cheater. I hope you will ever see any money again.