Anybody heard or know anything of eco-trust.com ?

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Anybody heard or know anything of eco-trust.com ?

Postby AuctionChex » Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:05 pm

Hi there,

I have a UK client, wanting to transaction with a German client - the German client suggested using eco-trust.com as an escrow provider, obviously the UK client wants to use AuctionChex

I have never heard of eco-trust.com before now ??

http://www.eco-trust.com/
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Re: Anybody heard or know anything of eco-trust.com ?

Postby peg » Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:51 pm

Well they have been around (or at least registered) since 2004 which is typically longer than any fraudulent site would be registered.
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    domain: eco-trust.com
    nserver: ns5.kasserver.com
    nserver: ns6.kasserver.com
    created: 2004-06-29
    updated: 2008-07-02
    expire: 2009-06-29

    owner-id: EN446540
    owner-org: Rechtsanwaltskanzlei Neuendorff
    owner-name: Eric Neuendorff
    owner-address: Hanauerlandstr. 10
    owner-pcode: 63796
    owner-city: Kahl
    owner-country: DE
    owner-phone: +49 618 84458891
    owner-email: info@kanzlei-neuendorff.de

    admin-id: EN446540
    admin-org: Rechtsanwaltskanzlei Neuendorff
    admin-name: Eric Neuendorff
    admin-address: Hanauerlandstr. 10
    admin-pcode: 63796
    admin-city: Kahl
    admin-country: DE
    admin-phone: +49 618 84458891
    admin-email: info@kanzlei-neuendorff.de

    tech-id: WK1126
    tech-org: Neue Medien Muennich GmbH
    tech-name: Werner Kaltofen
    tech-address: Hauptstr. 68
    tech-pcode: 02742
    tech-city: Friedersdorf
    tech-country: DE
    tech-phone: +49 35872 35310
    tech-fax: +49 35872 35330
    tech-email: hostmaster@all-inkl.com

    billing-id: WK1126
    billing-org: Neue Medien Muennich GmbH
    billing-name: Werner Kaltofen
    billing-address: Hauptstr. 68
    billing-pcode: 02742
    billing-city: Friedersdorf
    billing-country: DE
    billing-phone: +49 35872 35310
    billing-fax: +49 35872 35330
    billing-email: hostmaster@all-inkl.com



I have to say that the SSL is not valid and not properly configured. That really concerns me. Additionally since their registration page ( http://www.eco-trust.com/registrierung.html ) is requesting banking information I would absolutely want SSL enabled.

Additionally they REQUIRE you to enter the Bank information. I would think that should be an OPTION based upon upon how one would chose to pay or be paid.

I also think that it's poorly designed. Their is supposedly an English and a German version, but the English portion has much of the site in German.

I will stop short of calling them a fraud, however, I would avoid them until, at a minimum, the above issues are resolved. Particularly the SSL and the Banking information. 2 BIG no-no's in my book.
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Re: Anybody heard or know anything of eco-trust.com ?

Postby lightfair » Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:09 pm

That's not as easy as our "usual suspects".

eco-trust.com and eco-treuhand.de look both legit to me (both sites are operated by the same person, a lawyer). However I've found theat at least eco-treuhand.de is occasionally "impersonated" by scammers (of course, this happens to nearly all escrow companies).

One very well-known German computer magazine suggests using "eco-treuhand.de" for transactions; and a Google search turns up lots of other hits, many of them older and none hinting on anything wrong.

Disclaimer: I have no idea about the quality of service this provider offers. In my opinion the website leaves a lot to be desired.
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Re: Anybody heard or know anything of eco-trust.com ?

Postby AuctionChex » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:59 pm

Thanks - we all appear to have the same thoughts on this.

I think it has flown under the radar as neither legit of fraud because it is inactive ?

If active and legit, it would have a mention of its use 'somehwere' and would even be known to this forum and database as legit.
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Re: Anybody heard or know anything of eco-trust.com ?

Postby georg » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:17 pm

http://www.eco-trust.com/ is legit.
using banc-account in Germany

"All escrow transactions controlled by eco-trust are handled through the german HypoVereinsbank in Kahl am Main. If your contract partner has given you different bank details, please do not transfer money to this account! "
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