3rd-hand.com

Have you sent a letter to a provider to advise them of a scam? Put a copy in here along with the appropriate email addresses to send to, and let every one send the letters too. There is <b>power</b> in numbers.

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Postby peg » Fri May 04, 2007 6:48 pm

To: pantao@xinnet.com, abuse@xinnet.com
Cc: cp@interpol.int
Subject: FAKE ESCROW/COURIER SERVICE: 3rd-hand.com
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Abuse complaint regarding:

Name: 3rd Hand Escrow
URL: http://www.3rd-hand.com
IP: 210.51.170.56
Country: China (Claimed to be United Kingdom)
Type: Escrow

THIS SITE IS FRAUDULENT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:

+ The escrow is not registered with The Companies House of United Kingdom.
This is a sure sign of a fake escrow, and is a guarantee of its illegal nature.

This can be evidenced here: http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/info/


+ This particular site is using a known fraudulent layout. This particular layout has been used many times as can be seen in http://escrow-fraud.com/images/sites/Layout1 .


+ The escrow is listed in the escrow-fraud.com fake escrow database:
http://escrow-fraud.com/fraud_data.php?id=3676


+ Telephone Number: Phone number provided in Billing contact is from China but claims to be in London.
http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=ana ... ub=phonenr


+ FAX number: Faxnumber provided in Billing contact is from China but claims to be in London.
http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=ana ... ub=phonenr



+ Site gathers personal information on insecure form. Legitimate businesses do not gather this type of information without security precautions.


Register: http://www.3rd-hand.com/index.php?cmd=register


+ Short domain registration:

The site registration period:
Registration Date: 2007-03-07
Update Date: 2007-03-07
Expiration Date: 2009-03-07

+ The domain registration information is recent, though the site claims to have been in business for some time.

The site claims to have been in business since: 2001 (based on claim of main page "More than six years of experience! Over 10,000 satisfied customers!" )

The WHOIS registration says: 2007

The WHOIS registration says:

THE THIRD HAND LIMITED
29 LUDGATE HILL LONDON EC4M 7JE UK
100000
Ó¢ ¹ú

Administrative Contact:
mola kini
THE THIRD HAND LIMITED
29 LUDGATE HILL LONDON EC4M 7JE UK
LONDON LONDON 100000
cn
tel: 86 010 127765 112
fax: 86 127 765112
maowei@xinnet.com

Technical Contact:
mola kini
THE THIRD HAND LIMITED
29 LUDGATE HILL LONDON EC4M 7JE UK
LONDON LONDON 100000
cn
tel: 86 010 127765 112
fax: 86 127 765112
maowei@xinnet.com

Billing Contact:
mola kini
THE THIRD HAND LIMITED
29 LUDGATE HILL LONDON EC4M 7JE UK
LONDON LONDON 100000
cn
tel: 86 010 127765 112
fax: 86 127 765112
maowei@xinnet.com





Please understand that after receiving this message, you have been notified of individual(s) conducting illegal activities using your servers. If you fail to take down this website and all associated email addresses, you could be held liable for any damages incurred.


PLEASE TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTION RIGHT AWAY:

* Verify the fraudulent nature of this Escrow site, as outlined above.

* Shut down all email accounts and web pages associated with this site, and hold a copy for the authorities.

* Redirect all traffic for this domain(s) to the following page, to inform potential visitors of the dangers of internet escrow fraud:

http://www.onguardonline.gov/escrow_scheme.html

* Check for other sites/domains established by this customer, fake sites tend to be created by a small number of people.

* Contact the police with any credit card and contact information you have on record: fraudulent sites are often funded with stolen credit cards.

REMEMBER: THE PEOPLE BEHIND THESE SITES ARE CRIMINALS, OFTEN MEMBERS OF INTERNATIONAL GANGS. DO NOT REVEAL PERSONAL INFORMATION TO THEM EXCEPT WHEN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

I am forwarding this information to cp@interpol.int for their investigative purposes.

Help us stamp out escrow scams. Shut down this website! For more information on escrow scams, please visit:

Scotland Yard
http://www.onguardonline.gov/escrow_scheme.html

Escrow Fraud Prevention
http://www.escrow-fraud.com/

Thank you for your prompt attention. If you feel more information is needed before you can proceed with closing this domain, please feel free to contact me.

Regards
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Postby peg » Mon May 07, 2007 12:26 pm

Hmm..... Here is my response from abuse@xinnet.com received on May 05, 2007

Hello escrow-fraud
After checking the investigation, we will contact the relevant officers http://www.3rd-hand.com matters The results will give you feedback

Thank you for your letter


I think they need more encouragement.


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Postby Eniac » Mon May 07, 2007 7:19 pm

Abuse sent to abuse@cnc-noc.net, abuse@xinnet.com, support@paycenter.com.cn, ctsummary@special.abuse.net


This is their last chance before it goes to the leech items.


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Postby peg » Thu May 10, 2007 4:16 pm

The latest response!!! I can't believe it!

Dear Madam or Sir,

Thank you for contacting XINNET.
We have contacted with the user 3rd-hand.com, and transmited the evidence.
But they reply that they do not acquaint with the matter ,pls contact with the user or reletive inforcement depatment directly.
We will try our best to cooperate with you!
Pls let us know if we can help you any futher.
Thank you very much,
sincerely,
xinnet
The following is the email which from the user 3rd-hand.com

"·¢¼þÈË£º mola kini<molakini@googlemail.com> ·¢ËÍʱ¼ä£º 2007-05-08 22:24:37 ÊÕ¼þÈË£º ÐÂÍø

Hi,

I don`t know what to say about this message ... I`ll be sincerally with you... I`m not going to tell you that is an mistake or something...whatever... I just want to know how long my site will be available on the net and if you really need to take some action about my site.

I wait your reply/
Thank you!



Jeezzzz What the hell do you expect the guy to say? Uh, yeah... My site is a fraud. Please go ahead and take it down for me so I can waste my time and efforts to opening another fraud site somewhere else...

Even the "Reply" indicates that the guy knows his time is limited.
I just want to know how long my site will be available on the net....


Come on hosts!!! Let's get real and stop the crime!
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